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when I say gen I fucking mean gen. Not McShep, not any other slash, not even het. Please, for the love of God, fucking stop reccing me stuff that does not correspond with what I'm asking for. I honestly don't know how to say this anymore without outrightly offending you slashers but if this - you reccing me slash although I specifically ask for het or gen, I mean - happens ever again, you will see this in every damn single future request and screw the rules:

Please do not rec me slash. Under no circumstances I want to see a slash rec for this request. Slash recs will be ignored or maybe snarked at, if I feel in the mood. When I want slash, I will let you know. As long as I don't, I do not want to read slash, okay? Okay? Can you please respect that? You're always asking for people to respect slashers, so can you slashers please also respect people who do not want to read slash? I respect you. I don't rec het or gen if you definitely want slash. I don't rec you Lorne/Cadman when you want McShep. I don't rec you OCs when you want McShep. I don't rec you Marines when you want McShep.* So please do not rec me slash (and most of all, most of all, do not ever rec me McShep. I loathe it with the fire of a thousand suns) when I say that I fucking don't want to read it! Read. The fucking. Post.


No love, me.

*Because you know, that seems to be all they're ever asking for. I rejoice for every request that isn't McShep. And yes, this is my journal, I can say whatever the fuck I want here.

Date: 2012-02-02 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gelbes-gilatier.livejournal.com
I think what's happening there is that some slashers (because, to be fair, not everyone is like that... only, apparently, the most vocal ones...) mix up fandom and real life. Heteronormativity is still the prevailing concept in real life, so some apparently aren't able to distinguish the privilege heteronormativity has in real life from the privilege slashers have in fandom. Their simple equation seems to be "LGBT people are non-privileged IRL = slash is non-privileged in fandom".

Basically, all that privilege crap and the labeling sucks mighty lemons. It usually ends up with people not wanting to be a majority, because majority equals privilege equals not having the right to criticize (hence, some slashers not wanting to see that they are the majority in fandom). It's honestly the worst approach to discussion I ever encountered.
Edited Date: 2012-02-02 12:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-02-02 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangate.livejournal.com
That's the only thing I could think of too, but it just makes no sense to me. Fandom is real life at times, but also so different. There is no het/gay issue, so why call on that in this discussion? It just makes no sense to me. It is sad it is still there, specifically since many slash fans are het girls in real life.

Date: 2012-02-02 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gelbes-gilatier.livejournal.com
It is sad it is still there, specifically since many slash fans are het girls in real life.

Yep... that goes well with the whole "we have to protect minorities (because we believe they can't do that themselves but we won't say that)" thing that usually goes with the privilege crap.

What I also don't like is that discussions like this usually involve people saying "I (Caucasian cis female) blablabla" and there's nothing more ridiculous than obviously having to label yourself in an environment that allegedly fights against labelling and stereotypes...

Date: 2012-02-03 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangate.livejournal.com
Haha yeah I know what you mean. I wish things like this were just normal, you know? That people didn't even have to think: oh but I am female and caucasian, so in this discussion I will be seen as this or that. It just sad society still thinks in diversity instead of in 'we're all human'. But such is this earth, sadly.

Date: 2012-02-03 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rodlox.livejournal.com
not on LJ, but someone once tried to convince me that he was right purely because he was part of a historically-persecuted group*.
I very calmly replied "I'm a Germano-Russo-Welsh Jew. I win."

he never again tried to tell people that we shouldn't argue with him (no matter what the subject matter was) just because of what group he was a part of.

* = part of a group trying to revive the Cathars, I think. it's been 7 or more years.

Date: 2012-02-04 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gelbes-gilatier.livejournal.com
I very calmly replied "I'm a Germano-Russo-Welsh Jew. I win."

&hearts Best answer ever :D

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